Wait! From 4:00 to 4:42 he says it's cruel that the doctor would prevent him having access to his son if he asks questions that contradict the doctor's suggestions or calls the doctor's approach into question? LOL. I wonder how he feels about the GB preventing "apostates" from having access to their JW family because they ask questions that contradict the GB's teachings or call the GB's approach to interpreting the bible, into question. You just got to love the irony. LOL.
Island Man
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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital
by jwleaks in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .
jw leaks.
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strange experience at the RC- was it segregation?
by tornapart ini went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
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Island Man
Wow! What would James say? I know:
" My brothers, you are not holding to the faith of our glorious Lord Jesus Christ while showing favoritism, are you? For if a gujurati brother comes into your eating area, but a non-gujurati brother also enters, do you look with favor on the gujurati brother and say, “You take this seat here in a fine place, at the table near the window” and do you say to the non-gujurati brother, “You go over there in the middle” or, “This fine seat if reserved for gujurati brother only”? If so, do you not have ethnic segregation among yourselves, and have you not become judges rendering wicked decisions?"
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An important message from a PRACTICING Jehovah's witness
by Sparks inhi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!
i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.
i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.
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Island Man
Sparks, how old are you? Was that a serious post, or was it just satire? Because your post is filled with many flawed assumptions and flawed premises that many on here have already discarded for the rubbish that they are. Your post reveals that you are completely ignorant of the intelligence of the people on this forum. You are also completely ignorant of your ignorance! I find it hard to believe you've been a member of this forum for so long and you post such an OP filled with weak, long-debunked false premises. You are completely out of your league on here and seem completely oblivious to this fact. This is why I suspect that this is just a piece of clever satire. It can't be real. No one can be a member of this forum for so long and be such a naive and clueless JW apologist as revealed by the contents of the OP.
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" Sayings and Quotes" Thread.
by new hope and happiness ini wad thinking how certain quotes and sayings have such a positive effect on our life.
so i thought a quotes and sayings thread could be very inspirational.it would be nice if the saying or quote isn't origional to quote the author.. "not untill we are lost do we begin to understand ourselfs" henry david thoreau.. " better to never start, once started better finnish" the way of the peaceful warrior.. " health is wealth" source a friend once said.. .
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Island Man
"Faith is not a virtue. Faith is an attack on the rational mind. No God of wisdom could value faith as a virtue. Faith is the religious charlatan's snare of choice. The charlatan wraps credulity with in a pretty packaging called "Faith" and he sells it to his victims, little do they know that they're buying a psychological trojan horse that will destroy their rational, critical thinking, paving the way for them to be exploited by all manner of deceit."
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Island Man
"what if a person cannot enjoy their life? what then?"
Then they don't enjoy it. Simple. Life is fragile, fleeting and sometimes even unfair. Life is what it is. There is no rule that states life has to be meaningful, fair and enjoyable to everyone. As intelligent humans we can and should work toward it. But a universe without a just and benevolent creator/controller doesn't owe us anything. There is no law that states life must be fair and enjoyable by all. The fact that some endure unhappiness or even suffering, is no reason to believe that there must be some greater architect out there to right matters in the long run. You're projecting your own human sense of purpose and justice on an impersonal universe. The universe doesn't have to operate according to your own desire for justice and purpose. Accept life for what it is instead of hoping for it to be what you want, or what you have been brought up to think it has to be.
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How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-
by DocHouse in1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.
2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.
3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.
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Island Man
And why do men have nipples?
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How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-
by DocHouse in1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.
2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.
3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.
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Island Man
And why do men have nipples?
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Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?
by new hope and happiness insorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
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Island Man
But I find the religious side of this story to be quite fascinating. Before the bomb, the Japanese emperor was believed by most Japanese to be God. Imagine yourself as being one such deluded Japanese individual and one day that illusion is completely shattered by a weapon of such great power unleashing cataclysmic, Armageddon-like destruction and consigning unfortunate survivors to days of a painfully hellish existence, pleading with others to put them to death, then your God surrenders and admits that he isn't a God. If ever a story came close to the humiliation of the Egyptian's Pharoah God by the plagues brought on Egypt . . .
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Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?
by new hope and happiness insorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
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Island Man
C) They could have bombed Tokyo where all the generals lived but chose Hiroshima.
Actually, there was a significant military outfit in Hiroshima and that fact may have played a significant part in the decision to target Hiroshima. But I'm not saying this to justify it. I believe it was in fact an evil and unecessary act. They could have demonstrated the destructive power to the Japanese by nuking a nearby uninhabited island or dropping the bomb some miles offshore in sight of the populace so all can see the tremendous power and maybe get a little taste of the winds created by the blast miles away - just enough wind to unsettle them but without the loss of life. I think such a warning could have been sufficient to motivate the Japanese to surrender.
I think the real motives for dropping the bomb had more to do with testing this new novel weapon in the field to see the effects on life and property; and maybe to frighten other nations like the Russians. Ending the war was just a weak excuse for PR purposes.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Island Man
"Expressions of love are good. But then, just like suffering, if we are to experience these things and go on and disappear into nothingness in a manner in which there is no difference whether we ever existed or not, what good is there in that? These expressions of love no matter how long or fleeting they will last, will just be a joke in the end, and a cruel one at that. It doesn't matter, if we are just accidents"
The error in this reasoning is in the unstated assumption that our life has to be permanent or have some permanent legacy in order for it to be meaningful. Stop equating meaningfulness with permanence. This is a fallacy. Life is meaningful and purposeful while you are alive. The fleeting nature of life does not make the expressions of love we experience any less enjoyable. Expressions of love do not have to be a means to some greater eternal end. They are a means to an end in this temporary life - if not an end in and of themselves.
Life is precious and to be savored while you are alive. Make the most of the precious life you have. The purpose of your life is how you choose to live it and enjoy it. Isn't it enough that we get to experience being alive? Isn't that a tremendous treat in and of itself? Isn't it something very precious? Why waste opportunities to enjoy it fully (in a responsible way, of course) in order to follow the draconian restrictions and rules imposed by gods whose existence are wholly unproven?